N95-1 v21.0.016 Available at Nokia Service Centers Now

Hey guys- let's take it easy. I'm quoting the thread that is discussing the fact that it's now available at Nokia Service Centers- I believe your story was different in the fact that you're just reporting again that it's coming sometime soon. I just happen to reference earlier in that same thread that a change log is available. Regular readers know that I always quote you guys when I get a piece of news from S-F. That changelog is all over the Internet- and I'm simply referencing the thread, one of many out there, where I saw it at. Who even knows where the OP in that thread ended up getting it from- you both know how the Internet works. I think he quoted where he saw it as well. Looking at it again, yes he did. Following that link- I see where you seem to claim young Norman is inappropriately using "your" changelog as well.


Seriously- Do you guys really need to come at me like this- or everyone else in the last few days?

Very disappointing and frustrating lately... let's all relax about this linking business for a minute, please.

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I can understand the frustration, but you must also understand my own when Teo and yourself come to my site and leave a comment on a two day old post such as "It will be nice to put link back to the source from time to time?". My readers know that I ALWAYS post a link back to a source when I cover a piece that isn't my own- when someone blatantly accuses me of otherwise, I get a little frustrated myself.

In the future, if you'd like to discuss such things- I'd be much more happy if you would contact me directly, rather than leave such comments at my 'home' in front of my guests, especially when you have the whole thing wrong. :S

pseudofinn at nokiausers.net - if you please, in the future. Cheers, guys.

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Thanks, Zach. I'll keep that in mind.

You don't mean that these guys don't link their sources do you...? That would be odd, given the discussion they've started here. :-/

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Teo-[/b The point is that there are professional ways to behave, and I feel you folks are more than a little out of line with your comments here. My article has nothing to do with 'your' changelog, nor does it have anything to do with any of the other many "'v21 FW coming soon" posts at S-F. This article was about the actual release of the firmware at the Nokia Service Centers, I quoted the source where I read this and other information obtained by Nokia personnel- at N95users.com. The only mention of the changelog is a reference to the same discussion thread at N95users. The OP posted the source where he read it, which was Symbianworld.de, who also posted his source- and has received the same treatment as myself.

You ask me not to take it personally, though you accuse me of never giving credit to my sources- then you tell me you link sites like AAS even though they don't link you because you don't care that much... but quite obviously you do or, we wouldn't be having this shameful conversation- correct?

At any rate, if you had read the article before you posted the very condescending "It will be nice to put link back to the source from time to time?" comment, you would have realized that this article has ZERO to do with you and "your" changelog. In fact, I have not posted the changelog. If you had read this post before 'contributing' to he discussion here, you would realize that my post has nothing to do with this changelog that you feel is your intellectual property. There is no need to make any "nasty protection" as you say, simply to deal with things on a professional level. I have asked before and I will ask again, if you insist on continuing this inane discussion, I would prefer you contact me directly. My email is above, if you wish to speak on this more.

For the record, since you mentioned it- I haven't subscribed to the S-F feed in some time now for a number of reason.

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Marty- “i would get your facts straight before making such ridiculas comments.. we allways source back to the original source of news..”

First off- I would suggest you do the same, sir. Get your facts straight, and perhaps read the discussion before you jump in. Again- this article has nothing to do with you and S-F, until you popped over here to slap our wrists for not linking to you (when there was CLEARLY no need to).

I have asked you both to continue this unreasonable discussion in private between us, and you have chosen to do otherwise.

Again- if there are further words you feel you need to exchange with me- please do so like a gentleman and contact me privately so that we can resolve whatever issue you have.

We’re all in this for the same purpose (or at least I had assumed until recently)- to spread the word of Nokia and S60, and to provide post consumer education. This petty discussion about who links who and who owns what changelog or otherwise is very disappointing and is getting quite tiresome from your end at many communities. I hope we’re all over it now. If you feel I should have linked something to you in the future- contact me in a respectable manner and we’ll sort it out.

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Skaros- the N95 8GB is the N95-2, this article is in reference to the N95-1 which was the original N95 variant that came in Sand and Plum with a lens cover. Your N95 8GB is up-to-date.

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