Interesting Launch to the New iphone

[Bartmanekul]

I think perhaps thats a bit more than most currently do pseudo ;)

However, theres been loads of situations where I have recieved a text, or a call while having GPS running. Although I usually ignore it, sometimes I might pull over and read/answer. Or, if my other half is in the car, she will do it.

I daresay thats a very common situation for many people, and who wants to have to restart the satnav after they just read a text or took a call?

Start the GPS, wait for a lock, and then put your destination in again.

Or, on a true smartphone, just switch back to the GPS app.

There should be a solid definition of what a smartphone is, and multitasking should be very near the top of the list.


However....

A lot of iphone users have no had a smartphone, and would not be used to multitasking.

The 6110 being my first one, all previous having been S40, I have found it to be incredibly useful, and I really couldnt go back.

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by pseudofinn

To think- when we were dealing with the N95-1 and it's limited RAM before DP, we were all up in arms because we couldn't run more than three things at once!

Amazing.

I remember those days... I used to try and track my route on the ferry on the way home from work and get annoyed because i couldn't do it and listen to music...

You do raise a valid point though Pseudo.. I didn't go that far with my phone, but I used to plan my day, read my email (Although being able to connect to work's Exchange server would be a hell of a lot more handy than checking my gmail account (Policy prohibit me from installing MFE or Roadsync)) while cranking some tunes on the train on the way to work.. And txt my boss if I was running late.. (Although I'm sure the guys at work who have the iPod touch could run iTunes in the background)

I ended up going with the N95-2 today, not because of functionality, but just because it was going to be far too much to play out my existing plan.. This as it is is going to cost me $40AU extra ontop of my current plan and handset repayments..

[pseudofinn]

Oh yes, blokes. I'm obviously at the far end in terms of what I do with my N95. :) The point is- you can't even listen to music and browse the Internet on the iPhone?? You get a text message and whatever is going on has to stop? That's insane. You don't have to have anywhere near my usage to quickly run into the shortcomings of the iPhone. ;)

It's 2008 FFS- over half way through it- and we're calling this a smartphone? For a number of reasons- I don't think so.

I'm try to be understanding of the iPhone... but it just keeps getting more silly at every turn.

[samperry209]

what i dont understand is they made a iphone 3g yet their is no video calling....odd?

[Sp00k]

Originally Posted by Bartmanekul

...If you think apple wouldnt give it a proper GPS after putting up how GPS actually works spook, you must have an extremely low opinion of apple!

You got that part right! A "proper GPS", with no voice directions, does nothing to improve my opinion of them! ;)

Apple devices, in my opinion, are a triumph of form over function but with such a supremely efficient publicity machine, they have managed to fool some of the people, all of the time!

[AngusG]

Originally Posted by sp00k

You got that part right! A "proper GPS", with no voice directions, does nothing to improve my opinion of them! ;)

Apple devices, in my opinion, are a triumph of form over function but with such a supremely efficient publicity machine, they have managed to fool some of the people, all of the time!

Plenty of GPS devices don't give directions... We have a couple of "proper GPS" devices at devices that give little more info than lattitude/longtitude coordinates...

The lack of voice directions argument is a little redundant IMO, Nokia's not much better than Apple for making users pay for it..

[Bartmanekul]

I meant a proper GPS chip in it, not the program :P

Angus, I have the same opinion, which is why I said about Nokias actions on the previous page.

I think that when you say 'GPS' on a mobile phone, people expect something which gives voice and direction, like Tomtom.

[AngusG]

Umm... Also I don't know where you guys are getting information that the iPhone can't multitask: iPhone 2.0 SDK: The No Multitasking Myth — RoughlyDrafted Magazine

[pseudofinn]

Yeah- but at least it's available! How many apps are there for satnav with S60? How many are free?

There is zero option for the iPhone. I'd say it's an entirely valid argument.

[pseudofinn]

Originally Posted by AngusG

Umm... Also I don't know where you guys are getting information that the iPhone can't multitask: iPhone 2.0 SDK: The No Multitasking Myth — RoughlyDrafted Magazine

I got it from that support forum- loads of people asking if there is any way they can keep logged into chat program and do anything else, or listen to music and send a text... perhaps I'm wrong. I would certainly hope so!

edit- I got all the way into the first paragraph of that link before I read this...

The ability of the iPhone to answer a call, pull up the Maps app while the call is in progress,

Means it can't do it yet. It's the same old argument, "They're working on it. It'll be in an update." Heard it all before.

There's information all of there internet from Apple themselves that states you can't open more than one app at a time. Seems to be pretty well known. I understand that it's technically capable of running more than one app, but it appears to be a clear fact that it CANNOT... at least, not yet. And it can't "yet" do MMS, it can't "yet" do video recording, or video calling, or provide a use for the GPS, or listen to BT stereo, or tether to your laptop- but it's all coming in the next update, right?!


re-edit- er... hang on, read that as "the ability to.... is IN progress". Re-reading it doesn't make things much more clear- there's still the fact that Apple's own literature states that you cannot run more than one app at a time, and is confirmed by loads of iPhone users asking how they can perform such a marvelous feat. :S

The fact remains that there are ZERO background processes allowed, which is defended by a list of reason as to why you shouldn't even want to allow such a thing, and how great Apple is for making sure it's not going to happen. Then the argument pops up again- they'll sort it out. An update will solve all the problems, er... that aren't problems!

Reading on... that article states that the N95 has 64 MB of system memory. A little misleading considering my N95 has twice that. :-\

That article is all about how the iPhone can "kinda" do it, but with a list of reason as to why you wouldn't and shouldn't want to do it.

But there’s another reason why running multiple applications together on a mobile is stupid: there’s no room to see them at the same time. Without the screen real estate, there’s not enough pixels to support a desktop style arrangement of multiple overlapping windows as introduced by the Lisa, with close boxes and title bars to switch between the windows.

So my use of my N95 to its potential is stupid? My response to that webpage- Alt-F4. Because he can't REALLY multitask or envision how it would work for some lame reasoning, I'm stupid for doing it every single day of my life. Okay. Nice article.