Considering a 5800 - Opinions please? (was: 5800)

[tank24]

Hi everone,
going out today and may come back with a 5800.just a couple of questions.What is the general consensus. Will it be as good as my N95? I really like the idea of the touch screen but dont know if i cane cope with only having three buttons.The Reviews are not really conclusive.Also does any one know if garmin will support this model with XT.Any replies gratefully recieved positive or negetive.
thanks

[Gaz]

the camera is not as good as N95 but everything else easily surpasses it

[Bartmanekul]

Also does any one know if garmin will support this model with XT.

Yes, they deifnatly will but no ETA yet.

[tank24]

thanks for the quick replies guys.Is it easy to de-brand as well?

[Kruisler]

The touchscreen is a very personal thing... I really wanted one, I am very glad I have the 5800, but I do miss the physical keyboard on some occasions... Some people love it, some hate it. You'll only know after using it for a while...
I find my 5800 better than my n95..

[jonathan_phang]

I've come from an N95 myself, like quite a few others, and as stated above, the camera is probably the thing that is the biggest difference. In daytime/decent light, the pictures are fine, but anything less than that and there is so much noise its unreal. Found that messing with the manual settings and scene modes can help, but automatic isnt really that good for low light.

But its not all doom and gloom, IMO, I'm happy with everything else with the phone, with the exception of having to clean the screen all the time - cant stand any marks on it! Got used to the screen for texting now, and comfortable with qwerty and the alphanumeric pad. Half decent browser too. All wrapped up in a svelt package which doesnt cost too much.

Bargain.

[buxz777]

The touchscreen is a very personal thing... I really wanted one, I am very glad I have the 5800, but I do miss the physical keyboard on some occasions... Some people love it, some hate it. You'll only know after using it for a while...
I find my 5800 better than my n95..

i agree with kruisler here mate , the touchscreen is a very personal thing , you either love the way it operates your phone or you will hate it and find it clumsy like i did

i came from the n series family ( n95 , n96 , n82 ) and to be honest i much prefer the n95-1 or 6220c over the 5800 i found it a novelty that wore off after about 2 days and i just wanted my buttons back and got fed up touching the screen all the time and sometimes it not responding to the icon id touched or the touching the wrong link on the web browsewr by mistake as they are quite small , i have heard that the responsiveness has improoved with v20 though

there alot more people out there that like them so youll probably be ok now but iam glad i managed to get another n96 as i much prefer it , i was going to wait for the n97 but just cant be doing with the toucgh side of things

i like my handsets to be as complete as possible and without the 5mp camera i felt like i was downgrading my handset and also the touch screen hampered my speed on the handset so everything was taking alot longer then with say the n96 and with a mobile speed is important

these are only my views and iam sure that youll find another 1000 people that love the handset dearly and are really happy with their purchase i sold mine though on ebay after a week max

good luck with it i really hope you enjoy it and get a good one :-)

[tank24]

Thanks for all the replies.Just been to local voda shop and had aplay with one for a while.Touch screen was responsive and ithink i could get uesed to it
It didn't feel as well made as the N95 or the N70 i first had, that put me off. I will wait another month or so to see if the software gets upgraded,also wait to see when XT becomes available.Camer is not really an issue for me. Again thanks for the replies

[Gaz]

I have to say the build quality is waaaay better than N95-1 or N70 but then there are not many phones since that have felt that cheap

[kyle]

Well there are not any moving parts on the 5800.

Just bought one for £200, think I'm going to use it for a couple of days and sell it just to have a go.

[Evil Genius]

Just bought one for £200, think I'm going to use it for a couple of days and sell it just to have a go.

let us know how you get on. always good to have another opinion.

(and the stylus is a sort of moving part, right?)

[buxz777]

Well there are not any moving parts on the 5800.

Just bought one for £200, think I'm going to use it for a couple of days and sell it just to have a go.

for hardware to cost mate its a great deal i dont think it can be beaten , youll probably love it , loads of my friends do and theres loads of people on here that love them i just couldnt get on with mine but iam not keen on touch and use my cam alot on my handset , if you do sell it i managed to get a little more then i paid for it on ebay which helped me pay for me to buy an 8gb mem card and new front and back fascia for the n95 iam selling at the moment

i just put it up for 230 pound and 5 pounds postage with a best offer and someone bought it outright , i did state in the auction it was a uk model with full nokia warranty unlike alot of the others on ebay and the one i got was unbranded and unlocked so i think that helped the sale i was willing to take what i paid but thought id put the odd 20 quid on and see what happend and i got a result

it was in new condition though as i had to take one back due to it having a bad gap and the replacent was only 2 days old and hardly used at all as id allready gone off it

good luck with it mate hope you enjoy it , its a pretty good phone even though i didnt get on with it and i like the fact alot more people will be using symbian as the price is very good for such a high spec handset

[tank24]

thanks gaz.I haven't really made my mind up yet.I see cwh have been selling them on payg 02 unlocked for £209 if that is the case i will probably get one.Are they hackable yet? anyone know? and thanks to whoever changed the title, much better!

[Sp00k]

To those 'trying the phone out'... Don't forget that the v20 firmware makes one heck of a difference to the 5800, much faster, much more responsive touch-screen and the icing on the cake (for UK users), the ability to download from iPlayer and watch the programmes later... It takes only a few minutes to download a 30 min programme using WiFi!

[93tid]

Excellent point sp00k. I wandered up to the flagship store over the weekend and now they have the whole front area lined up with 5800s to play with, more than a dozen of them. Blues are in stock as well. I checked them out, all the blues and all the reds were still on V.10 except for two reds on V.11.0.008, probably leftovers from the "limited edition" run.

Still waiting for V.20 on mine, should make it even better.

[david c]

Got mine a few days ago and love it.Solid feel,fast and responsive.Didn't think i could ever find a phone to eventually replace my N95 but the 5800 has done just that.I understand that CPW are no longer doing the 5800 on PAYG.

[ramjam69]

Just to answer a couple of quesions, yes it's VERY easy to debrand (but you are waving bye-bye to your warranty - I did!!) and they are hackable, though I've not tried it.

[tank24]

thanks ramjam going to get one with vodafone on an upgrade hopefully.
would like to think it will come with at least v11.Phones for u are offering it sim free for £325 going to rush out and buy 2 at that price! not!

[93tid]

I understand that CPW are no longer doing the 5800 on PAYG.

I was in CPW yesterday, it is still offered as PAYG for 209.95 on O2 and 199.95 on Orange with min. topups of, I think, £20, but I presume this can be circumvented via the upgrade route.

[tank24]

Hi 93
i was in cwh in durham yesterday and was told they no longer do that deal as demand was so high they could not furnish all their contract customers.They did say that when stocks were back up they would be resuming the offer but not in the near future.at the risk of double posting.i can upgrade my sim only £20 for 600mins+ulimited text to £25 a month to include a new 5800 taken over 18months works out at £90 for the handset by my reconing.

[93tid]

Hi 93
i was in cwh in durham yesterday and was told they no longer do that deal as demand was so high they could not furnish all their contract customers.They did say that when stocks were back up they would be resuming the offer but not in the near future.

I went through 2-3 CPWs along Oxford street on the weekend and did not see it advertised there. Last night I was killing time (friend running late) and walked into the CPW on Bishopsgate across from Liverpool Street Station. They had the offer info sheet and a dummy 5800 on the PAYG part of their wall display but I didn't actually ask whether they offer it. I'm sure that even if they said "No" I could have bullied them into giving me one on the grounds of it being advertised as on offer.

[david c]

I guess they have been caught out with the huge numbers they have sold and have stopped the PAYG offers mid-month.
I am happy with my £15per month contract.CPW are now advertising on TV for £35per month.This phone must be flying off the shelves!!

[ramjam69]

There's no way I'd personally would buy one on a £35/month contract. Not when they're offering an 8mp camera phone for the same money. Shows how in good esteem the 5800 is held in though.