nokia n96 ram

[buxz777]

after reading this on nokias website for the n96

128MB RAM, 256MB system memory (operating system plus dynamic user data area)

iam wandering why my n96 at boot up has only 41.7 mb of ram free

when using jbtaskman to monitor my ram it can seem quite unstable at times

i have exactly the same setup on my n82 and at boot up on that iam reaching 80.1mb of ram on the n82

where has the other 40mb gone in the n96 dosent it seem strange

they said that feature pack 2 was less of a resource hog then feature pack 1 thats why we had better battery life etc but how comes its taking nearly 40mb of ram more out of my phone

and when i cleaned thre phone for the 1st time ie debranded then hard format to get rid of the vodafone junk i only had 70mb of free memory on the c drive but according to the statement from nokia it should have 256mb of free memory obvously again some of this will be operating system and phone directiries set up but 180mb??

iam down to 33mb or memory on the c drive because of applications and sometimes when i check my ram it will be as low as 23 mb sometimes 37mb and at boot usaully 41.2mb

has anyone else noticed there ram??

the native browser can chuck them low memory warnings out iam using opera mini now that seems to use the ram better and wont give me a low warning memory

bit dissapointed by the ram and low memory on c drive and wandering where it all dissapears to , any idears

[sfauts]

I tend to store everything on the Mass Memory.

I think if you wanted a device that had a lot of RAM and functionality, you should of got a pocket PC or PDA.

Just my thoughts.

[buxz777]

iam actually very happy with the n96 and advising me to get a pda is very bad advice they dont suit my life at all i also dont think a pda has half the funciality of a n96 ie 5mp camera , symbian support , great music player , full 30fps video , 32 gb of memory , gps with agps as standard , duel slide keypad with dedicated gaming controls , a2dp support , duel led flash with video operation as well as standard jpeg flash , built in fm radio , ngage gaming ,dedicated nokia applications , 3rd party support , 24bit audio dsp chip , blah blah blah blah

my point i was making is that the phone is advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n82 , at boot my n82 has 80mb of ram , my n96 has roughly 40mb of ram they are supposed to have the same amount of ram the only thing different on both my n82 and my n96 was/is the operating system feature pack 2 on the n96

i wasnt putting the n96 down and trying to put people off i was just clearly stating a fact saying that my n96 has half the ram my n82 does at boot and that i think it might be the feature pack 2 that is on the phone and was asking people if they had the same experience and if maybe this could be improoved with a firmware update as the n82 is much more stable due to it having 80mb of ram to play with having 40mb of ram limits the phone a little bit

ie the way the native browser operates it uses a lot of ram so more then 40mb of ram would be nice as it can struggle on this amount of ram which makes me have to use the inferior mini opera which allthough good it dosent support flash as good as the native browser

iam quite happy with the n96 and its features iam just wandering where the 128mb of ram has gone on the device

its advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n95 8gb and the n82 both of these devices have 80mb of ram at boot so why is the n96 diferent , is it the feature pack 2 , processor , a bug , caching of files due to large memory , or all of these put together??

cheers

[93tid]

Originally Posted by buxz777

iam actually very happy with the n96 and advising me to get a pda is very bad advice they dont suit my life at all i also dont think a pda has half the funciality of a n96 ie 5mp camera , symbian support , great music player , full 30fps video , 32 gb of memory , gps with agps as standard , duel slide keypad with dedicated gaming controls , a2dp support , duel led flash with video operation as well as standard jpeg flash , built in fm radio , ngage gaming ,dedicated nokia applications , 3rd party support , 24bit audio dsp chip , blah blah blah blah

my point i was making is that the phone is advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n82 , at boot my n82 has 80mb of ram , my n96 has roughly 40mb of ram they are supposed to have the same amount of ram the only thing different on both my n82 and my n96 was/is the operating system feature pack 2 on the n96

i wasnt putting the n96 down and trying to put people off i was just clearly stating a fact saying that my n96 has half the ram my n82 does at boot and that i think it might be the feature pack 2 that is on the phone and was asking people if they had the same experience and if maybe this could be improoved with a firmware update as the n82 is much more stable due to it having 80mb of ram to play with having 40mb of ram limits the phone a little bit

ie the way the native browser operates it uses a lot of ram so more then 40mb of ram would be nice as it can struggle on this amount of ram which makes me have to use the inferior mini opera which allthough good it dosent support flash as good as the native browser

iam quite happy with the n96 and its features iam just wandering where the 128mb of ram has gone on the device

its advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n95 8gb and the n82 both of these devices have 80mb of ram at boot so why is the n96 diferent , is it the feature pack 2 , processor , a bug , caching of files due to large memory , or all of these put together??

cheers

bux, I like your posts a lot, they are quite informative and entertaining, however could you please try to introduce at least the minimum of punctuation in them, I literally get a headache trying to follow long unbroken lines of words. For example the last paragraph above is almost bearable, but the middle part is quite tough to follow.

[sfauts]

Originally Posted by buxz777

iam actually very happy with the n96 and advising me to get a pda is very bad advice they dont suit my life at all i also dont think a pda has half the funciality of a n96 ie 5mp camera , symbian support , great music player , full 30fps video , 32 gb of memory , gps with agps as standard , duel slide keypad with dedicated gaming controls , a2dp support , duel led flash with video operation as well as standard jpeg flash , built in fm radio , ngage gaming ,dedicated nokia applications , 3rd party support , 24bit audio dsp chip , blah blah blah blah

my point i was making is that the phone is advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n82 , at boot my n82 has 80mb of ram , my n96 has roughly 40mb of ram they are supposed to have the same amount of ram the only thing different on both my n82 and my n96 was/is the operating system feature pack 2 on the n96

i wasnt putting the n96 down and trying to put people off i was just clearly stating a fact saying that my n96 has half the ram my n82 does at boot and that i think it might be the feature pack 2 that is on the phone and was asking people if they had the same experience and if maybe this could be improoved with a firmware update as the n82 is much more stable due to it having 80mb of ram to play with having 40mb of ram limits the phone a little bit

ie the way the native browser operates it uses a lot of ram so more then 40mb of ram would be nice as it can struggle on this amount of ram which makes me have to use the inferior mini opera which allthough good it dosent support flash as good as the native browser

iam quite happy with the n96 and its features iam just wandering where the 128mb of ram has gone on the device

its advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n95 8gb and the n82 both of these devices have 80mb of ram at boot so why is the n96 diferent , is it the feature pack 2 , processor , a bug , caching of files due to large memory , or all of these put together??

cheers

I don't think you've really understood the point in my post, and I'm finding it difficult to understand what you've written - maybe this is why your post may have been misinterpreted orignally, I'd take other users advice and try to make your posts a little easier to read.

I'm not saying that you're putting the N96 down, I have an N96 and am fully aware of its features, I wouldn't be posting on an N96 forum...nor would I have written a review on it.
The way your post reads, is that you're annoyed that it can't seem to handle loads and loads of applications at the same time - thus my suggestion that a PDA would be more suitable. For instance, the Samsung Omnia - which I had, has the same features as the N96, however it runs on windows mobile instead of symbian. This is not "bad advice" at all, I think you're a little confused. I can't interpret what would suit your lifestyle as I don't know you, it was, a mere suggestion.
As I say, this is how your original post comes across.

I can understand that you're frustrated that the N96 doesn't seem to be running at what you would say is full capacity, and your N82 seems to be able to free up more memory - I can't say I check the free memory on my phone, unless applications couldn't run because of a lack of it - I see no reason to bother.

What do I think is causing this? The Firmware on the N96 is still at a very early stage, so much so that they originally delayed the release, and have already released an update. I'm not sure what mine is currently running at, but it's fast, and does the primary job I have it for - a mobile phone.

I'd perhaps put the suggestion to Nokia - if your device is debranded, the leftover applications could well still be on it clogging up the memory.

[TheBoffin]

Originally Posted by buxz777

my point i was making is that the phone is advertised as 128mb or ram the same as the n82 , at boot my n82 has 80mb of ram , my n96 has roughly 40mb of ram they are supposed to have the same amount of ram the only thing different on both my n82 and my n96 was/is the operating system feature pack 2 on the n96

I suspect this is like comparing 2PC's that have 1GB RAM with WindowsXP installed on it - and yet when you look at available RAM they're different .. and what's more neither have anything near 1GB RAM available ;)

I imagine that drivers etc will take up different memory footprints on each of the different phones, perhaps the N96 drivers are a little bloated at the moment - I don't know, wouldn't even like to second guess it to be honest!

I'm not sure why you seem so anal over memory usage on C ? You've got a massive 'mass storage' of 16gb - switch everything to use that, leave C for the operating system etc.

[buxz777]

boffin i aint being anal mate i just think that its a shame ram is so low and also that the memory on c drive is low as thats where i install my applications like many users

also my 16gb mass memory is full up and so is my 16gb memory card

i dont like installing apps to memory cards i find its allways best to keep them on the c drive

and iam not having a moan it was merley a question

why has the phone got 40mb of ram when the n82 and the n96 have 128mb of ram yet the n96 has less then half of the ram at boot to the n82

and why has the phone got such low memory on c drive

i dont think thats being anal mate some people might call it being intrigued inquesitive intrested etc etc

[TheBoffin]

Sorry anal was too strong a word .. shouldn't really have used that <blush>

It does sound however that you're filled your phone up with apps/mp3/movies etc - I pretty much never use my phone for browsing the web, I still find it quite a painful experience and only tend to do that when i'm away from home .... I know the browser dumps it's cache all over, so it may be worth clearing that up regularly.

Your inquisition is quite probably valid - it could be down to a number of reasons:
- Drivers for N96 are just bigger
- OS files contain debug info
- OS manages memory and reserves working memory upfront to help stabilise
- OS is just bigger
- some other reason I can't think of right now...

Unless someone can start delving into the bowels of the OS on the phone to work out differences .. I very much doubt Nokia will tell us why.

[maltloaf]

the amount of free memory (and the way the phone handles it) will change as the firmware evolves. Stick to installing everything that can be, on the mass memory and keep updating the firmware. I will admit, it is curious as to the differences but I think it's like comparing fuel economy in a 1.6 astra and a 1.6 escort. They are roughly the same power/capacity/performance but may not have the same economy as they are different beasts.

[blazein]

I was under the impression that the n96 has less ram than the n95-2 and n82 anyway?

Or is it just less free ram available after boot?