N97 Size Comparison Photos with an N95-1, N95-2, and N82

[samisnake]

Originally Posted by 93tid

E51 and E66 are tiny compared to a N95 or N82, E71/E63 is almost as thin as an iPhone - what are you talking about ? Only the E90 is the brick, the rest of the Eseries are all very elegant with fantastic build quality.

what im talking about is the current top end e series phones have at least one large dimension. eg the e71, its thin but its wide. so is the e63, and the e90 is just huge but like you say its the only excessively bricked off one.

its usually the e series that they offer a full qwerty keyboard with, as the e series is aimed at business users who will accept the added size for the extra functionality*. with the n97 its the first nseries that i consider to be both a member of the e series and the nseries, yet i see it positioned more in the e series.

before you lambast me for being some babbling fool, let me point out the reasons i think it is more of a e series phone.

1. the eseries phones usually one step behind in camera MP than the nseries phones (based on top phone vs top phone). so for example 5mp on current for sale n series vs 3.2mp on e series. n86 has an 8mp cam vs n97s 5mp.
2. full qwerty keyboard. weve seen a quite a few e series phones with this, n97 is the first n series with it.
3. large screen, which slides open to reveal the keyboard, leaving the screen at an angle which would suit placing it on a table to write, similar to the e90.
4. excessively long in comparison to nseries devices, which have a more balanced shape dimension wise. e71/63/61 are wide to accomadate the keyboard, the n97 is long. *- shape fits around the sacrifice of extra size in order to get the extra functionality.
5. it has a very similar sideways keyboard silder as the e75.

[roberth]

@micky i wanted to do a thread like this but thought no one wants to see a dummy lol
but even then the n97 was astoundingly small and didnt seem heavy either.....

in reality having played with it proper now, it still is that amazing "smaller than it looks in pics" feeling.......

[Micky]

Cheers Rob. I too am amazed by how small it is. Its the perfect form factor too. Obviously having only the dummy at the moment, I cannot comment on build quailty, but from what I have heard, and read thus far, the N97 build quality is by far the best Nokia have made a device from.

[Bartmanekul]

I agree with you samisnake, and I have actually said before on here that I reckon the N97 is more suited to the E series.

I'd have thought for a flagship N series they would have done the following -

Made a touchscreen device with a large screen.

Made it slim (no keyboard - you still have the onscreen one)

Gave it a better cam - like the N86.

Gave it a better processor or graphics chip.

Made it nice looking (or for those that like it, even nicer looking). As it is, it's ok but a tad bland.


To me, N series isn't all about being able to type fast on a hardware keyboard. It's about looking sexy and multimedia. So why the behind the times 5mp cam and dull looking phone, which is quite possibly going to struggle with Ngage games?

Still, I have to admit, that's an impressive thickness considering the keyboard. Assuming it's reasonably robust and lasts well, they have done very well there.

Micky, I very much doubt it will beat the E66 for build quality. ;)

[Micky]

Camera in the N97 is more optimized than that in the N95, newer software, and sensor too.

As to N-gage, it plays N-gage games very well from what i have seen in the video below..

YouTube - N-Gage Running On The Nokia N97

[samisnake]

Originally Posted by Bartmanekul

I agree with you samisnake, and I have actually said before on here that I reckon the N97 is more suited to the E series.

i remembered reading someone else saying that they thought it was more of an eseries phone, never really thought about it till today seeing it alongside other nseries phones.

new nseries devices usually bring convergance in the form of extra features eg gps in the phone so that you dont need a separate satnav, higher MP cameras so that you dont need to rely on a seperate camera (i know they cant replace them fully, but you get my drift), etc etc. the progressive convergance of features has seemed to have taken another form in the n97 though, with the 5800 and e75 rolled together as one. it offers nothing "new" in terms of features, something that flagship nseries devices are usually good at. imo its just a collaberation of qwerty and touchscreen phones already out there.

[93tid]

Originally Posted by samisnake

what im talking about is the current top end e series phones have at least one large dimension. eg the e71, its thin but its wide. so is the e63, and the e90 is just huge but like you say its the only excessively bricked off one.

Width of N97 - 55.3mm
Width of E71 - 57mm
Width of E75 - 50mm (slider closed)

Thickness of N97 - 15.9 to 18.25mm in its thickest part
Thickness of E71 - 10mm
Thickness of E75 - 14.4mm

There is no added size issue with the E-series is there, really ?

Originally Posted by samisnake

its usually the e series that they offer a full qwerty keyboard with, as the e series is aimed at business users who will accept the added size for the extra functionality*. with the n97 its the first nseries that i consider to be both a member of the e series and the nseries, yet i see it positioned more in the e series.

I'm sorry, but the N97's keyboard is not full QWERTY in comparison to the E90 or E71.

I cannot see the N97 being placed as an E-series phone apart from some external form similarities, but that's about it.

[roberth]

nokia wont compete with itself thus the n97 with a 5mp camera and the n86 with an 8mp
but not all nseries are tiny or supposed to be.....
the granddaddy of nseries the n90 was huge.......
the n93 was huge as well and so was the n92
feature wise nseries will always be tweaked.....and yes there is now a thin line between
nseries and eseries with both taking a bit more from the other in recent times...

on the other hand nokia would build a device fully knowing that its much hyped services wont be compatible
or smooth on a flagship device.....
@micky i havent heard one bad remark about the n97 as yet......from build to speed to touch to camera not one bad remark
@samisnake maybe the convergence of touch with qwerty (as it hasnt been done on a nokia device before and definitely looks and
feels better than the htc) IS the new feature........this device pleases everyone? keypad lovers and touch lovers?

[samisnake]

Originally Posted by 93tid

Width of N97 - 55.3mm
Width of E71 - 57mm
Width of E75 - 50mm (slider closed)

Thickness of N97 - 15.9 to 18.25mm in its thickest part
Thickness of E71 - 10mm
Thickness of E75 - 14.4mm

There is no added size issue with the E-series is there, really ?



I'm sorry, but the N97's keyboard is not full QWERTY in comparison to the E90 or E71.

I cannot see the N97 being placed as an E-series phone apart from some external form similarities, but that's about it.

from those dimesions, its about the same width, but you left out my comment on the length? i said, if you had read it properly, the those eseries have at least ONE large dimension. in the e71s case its the width, in the n97s it the length. nseries devices are usually more balanced dimensionally, and have a more conventional "phone" shape.

the n97 might not have a FULL qwerty, but seeing how i can see a qwerty keyboard none the less, it makes it the first nseries to have one, as apposed to the eseries brand with its long list of them.

if it had been called the nokia e97, would you be arguing its case that its really an nseries phone? ignore the model number, look at what brand series its closer to

[samisnake]

Originally Posted by roberth

nokia wont compete with itself thus the n97 with a 5mp camera and the n86 with an 8mp they did it with the n96 and n95. two high end phones, with slight differences and a different target market. the n97 and n86 are ALOT more different than the former examples
but not all nseries are tiny or supposed to be..... name me a model from last year that stood out as being alot bigger than another.
the granddaddy of nseries the n90 was huge....... and my old nokia 5110 from 2001 was a brick... time moves on and miniturisation of electronics allows for more features to be fitted into smaller devices
the n93 was huge as well and so was the n92
feature wise nseries will always be tweaked.....and yes there is now a thin line between
nseries and eseries with both taking a bit more from the other in recent times... thats my whole point, that i think the line has been crossed with the n97

@samisnake maybe the convergence of touch with qwerty (as it hasnt been done on a nokia device before and definitely looks and
feels better than the htc) IS the new feature........this device pleases everyone? keypad lovers and touch lovers? thats what i was thinking too, but surely for the nseries, they could have stuck in at least the 8mp cam for it to be cutting edge tech. otherwise why not just put it in the eseries

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